ether?

[dr mambo]

Hey, ether info neede, all help much appreciated.


whats it like being on ether?


can u do 2 much?


do u hallucinate?


in mls, how much is enough to have a strong/decent effect?


is it as dangerous and harmful as huffing houshold inhalents?


could n e 1 tell me about there experiences with ether?

[Kemikaru_Tenshu]

Ether can be very dangerous. With that said, 1 mL of ether is more than enough for a dose. The experience is hard to describe, other than to say that you will have no coordination, and for a few minutes you will be unable to process information correctly. It's like nitrous, but "darker". You see patterns in things, kind of like mushrooms or acid, but only for a short period of time. You don't hallucinate per se. You will not do much other than sit around. Ether is fun to try once of twice, but IMHO it is neither a party drug nor something you'll want to do often.









~KT

[perpel budz]

Ether is kind of fun, but really freaks you out. If you want the experience without freaking out there is only one solution. I prefer large amounts of heroin in conjunction with absinthe. You can't go wrong with that.

[psyko_tripper]

When I was high on ether it felt like I was dancing at a discotheqe but actually it was my friend's backyard...
Crazy stuff!
Found it a really cool and trippy experience

[thydarkprevails]

i'm not a ether fan, i spent literally hours huffing the rag with friends in high school, so much to where it makes me extremely nautious...the best way i can describe it is your head feels like there's electric current running through it...

[Bodhisattva500]

where can you get some ether ive never done it

[dr ACE]

u can get it from cans of engine staring spray,just spray the contents if the can down a plastic tube into a glass bottle to collect the ether,make sure it has ether by reading the contents on the back first it should be diethyl-ether/ ethyl-ether ,take care

[Bodhisattva500]

excellent, any recommened brands?

[Bodhisattva500]

is engine starting fluid safe or do you need the real deal

[asystole]

engine starter fluid has heptane in it... IMO don't use starting fluid. It's made to also lubricate along with assist starting the engine... bad stuff for your lungs.

[lolomgwtfbbq]

Is this safe at all?</font>

[asystole]

Simply, don't use starter fluid. ALSO don't keep a sample vial of diethyl in your pocket at the bar... lol. You'll be sitting there and then hear a *pop* and woah, hey! You smell like ether and the whole place knows it! (the vapours make the container pop open and you run outside and next thing you know you stink like solvents and you're huffing from your jacket pocket NOT THAT IT JUST HAPPENED TO ME OR ANYTHING....)

[pokergod0588]

you dont gotta huff the straight starter fluid (thts just kinda fucked up)...mix an equal amt of starter fluid with an equal amt of water in a glass bottle, shake it up extremely hard for 3-4 minutes, let it sit and the ether will separate and form a top layer, siphon it off with an eyedropper or sumptin and there u go...you can add water to this ether andrepeatto try and make it cleaner but its still better than doin the straight starter fluid....buying ether is def. the way to go

[Chaote]

Dr Ace do you use the starter fluid personally, Im just azking because then its like wel your not dead sop why would I die

[pokergod0588]

is it true tht ur breath will smell for days b/c of ether? will just the normal stuff (gum, toothpaste) take it away?

[Nagognog2]

Ask the judge in the court room who asked if I was guilty of "Inhaling Intoxicating Vapors" the next day if I smelled of ether. It was a riot! Direct answer: Yes, you will reek. No, toothpaste, mouthwash, nothing will get rid of it!

[Dogears]

Either can be fun but it is too toxic to do with any frequency. Keep it to just once in a great while.

[fudd]

Swim hawked a whole pint of ether from the chem. lab a few months ago and it's so awkward to use.

Seriously. If you plan on being anywhere near anyone who will have a
problem with it, don't do it. Save it for big parties where you won't
be leaving the building for a few days. This stuff stays on your breath
for up to four days and you won't be kissing anyone for a week. you
taste like paint.



The high is unique though so it's worth investigating, this stuff
messes with your perception of time and can cause vivid hallucinations
or memory loss. you will wake up and find evidence of your trip around
you and not be able to piece it together.



so... once or twice only


Edited by: fudd

[phosphine]

swim prefered low boiling fractions of petroleum ether, he felt that it
smelled better and did not linger on the breath for more than a few
hours. swim could not stand the intense alcohol taste of ether so he
did not experiment with the sample he aquired from a lab. swim
was taken to strange lands and experienced infinity firsthand in the
strange worlds his mind created as he ever so slightly asphyxiated
himselfhttp://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley9.gif



ive heard that the activity of ether is similar to ethyl alcohol in the
brain, chemically, ether is like two molecules of ethyl alcohol bound
together at there oxygen atoms, i guess if this is true then its like
getting drunk while experiencing the asphyxiation high. swim told me he
never experienced memory holes or had difficulty piecing together the
events of a petroleum ether binge, however swim has most definitely had
both of those experiences while boozing.



also swim told me to tell you that you most definitely do NOT want to
try to keep diethyl ether for too long, he said it tends to form
explosive peroxides and the slight friction created by opening the cap
on the container has caused explosions. swim did not want to discourage
exploration, but he could not emphasize strongly enough how important
it is to respect potentially explosive chemicals.


Edited by: phosphine

[Nagognog2]

I'll not bother addressing the dangers of diethyl ether and storage of same here. Read a chemical text to learn how to properly handle this material.


However I will say this about Petroleum Ether: Pet. Ether is a mixture of pentane to hexane straight-chain aliphatic hydrocarbons. Read: It's about the same thing as gasoline(petrol). It is NOT an actual 'ether' at all: R-O-R.Doing this as a recreational drug is about as low as you get! It's as bad/worse as huffing butane like a 10 year old in the bushes of the local grade school. Yuck-O!! It will serve to cut off oxygen to your brain in the same manner as if you were drowning. Sound like fun? Save some money and reduce the risk of burning your house down - just stick your head in a tub of water and breathe deep! &lt;blub! blub! blub! Me feel smart!&gt;Edited by: nagognog2

[phosphine]

i feel that inhalants are a despirate mans escape, swim like most
abusers was 15 and bored at the time. reagent grade pet-ether is
probably somewhat safer than gasoline though if someone was going to
explore the depths of there own depravity.

[SuperFTP]

ether gives you a really nice body buzz for a few mins that is just amazing......

[bonghed]

I'm talking about the drug on fear and loathing in las vegas, they put it on a cloth and inhale. I have probably heard seen or tried it before but am not familiar with the name ether (not in this sense),Does anyone know the substance in question?


I AM NOT SOLICITING I AM ASKING THE NAME FOR IT

[MrJim]

Ether is Diethyl Ether dude. It's not a drug - It's a solvent.

[Nagognog2]

It is BOTH.

[MrJim]

Would it really be classified as a drug, though? Like would gasoline be classified as a drug because huffing it gets you high? I'm not being sarcastic here, just curious.

[MrJim]

Huh... I just looked up the definition of drug - it's much broader than I had really thought it was - Surprise, surprise Nagognog is right.


A substance used in the diagnosis, treatment, or prevention of a disease or as a component of a medication.
Such a substance as recognized or defined by the U.S. Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act.
A chemical substance, such as a narcotic or hallucinogen, that affects the central nervous system, causing changes in behavior and often addiction.

It is a substance that was used as an anesthesia for hundreds of years, therefore a drug.


Gasoline does cause changes in behavior, so it too is a drug.

[bonghed]

also wots the name of the other one mentioned in same film, the one that "makes pure mescaline seem like gingerbeer" i'll edit in the name in a lil while





it's ok it's Adrenochrome, Anyone tried this? erowid isn't sure if it has any psychoactive properties, is anyone here sure?


id like more info on the other aswell, it's not like petrol or butane is it? i mean the guys seemed to get a lot off it on fear and loathingEdited by: bonghed

[enquirewithin]

Perhaps you can take Hunter Thompson with a pinch of salt. Someone on Bluelight tried some andrenachrome-- it didn't do much. Andrenaline just makes your heart race.


Ether gives you a short dissociative high, a bit like nitrous oxide.Edited by: enquirewithin

[FrenTiBulon]

I've heard that the properties described in fear in loathing of
adrenochrome are purely fictional, that adrenochrome is a factual
substance but without psychedelic properties. Maybe I'm wrong, also,
adrenochrome which as described by the film is extracted from a human
while still alive?

sounds like a difficult substance to get your hands on.

[Nagognog2]

Bongo was given adrenochrome, adrenolutin, several derivatives. It's effects were very mild. There were no long tails and destroyed hotel rooms involved. And Bongo began by oxidizing adrenaline with silver oxide - no chewed up pineal glands were involved.


Last Analysis: That was pure Hollywood B.S.

[lilsteve]

yeah, if you've ever gotten stitches in your face and they shot you
with epinephrine, thats the same as adrenaline and all it does is
prevent blood flow. it's the same adrenaline as when you work out, or
get scared.



one guy told me he smoked crystalized adrenochrome, but i think it was
dexamphetamine. he was a tweaker, and later robbed this shithead pot
dealer at gunpoint.

[dclacomb]

MrJim</span>, I think you missed
Nagognog's point that Diethyl Ether is different from other "huffable"
drugs. Gasoline, whiteout, or whatever work because they deprive
your brain of oxygen. Diethyl Ether works because it has an
actual effect on your brain, other than hypoxia. N2O would be
another example of a drug you "huff" that has real effects other than
oxygen deprevation. Also, to my knowledge Diethyl Ether is safe
if used correctly.

[markdahman]

Anyone got tips on finding ether? What 2 tell the person in the store ur looking for along with a lil story.... I dunno dont wanna og in theyr and have em know im huffing the shit! lol http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif

[FrenTiBulon]

i'm pretty sure that ether is an engine starter
fluid. you can go into automotive stores and find it. It is dangerous
in this form I have heard and you need to do chemical extractions to
make it safe.

well not safe, but safe-r.
I've always wanted to try it and have done a little looking up about it
but nothing really in depth. Maybe someone else out there could
enlighten us on what ether truly is.

you can also use it in pokemon

[MrJim]

MrJim, I think you missed Nagognog's point that Diethyl Ether is different from other "huffable" drugs. Gasoline, whiteout, or whatever work because they deprive your brain of oxygen. Diethyl Ether works because it has an actual effect on your brain, other than hypoxia. N2O would be another example of a drug you "huff" that has real effects other than oxygen deprevation. Also, to my knowledge Diethyl Ether is safe if used correctly.

It's a good point you bring up - I hadn't thought about it in those terms so I went looking (albeit not for more than 20 mins) about the pathways that ether is active in. I couldn't find a straight reliable answer, so who knows exactly what ether does in the body?


If I find out I'll post.Edited by: MrJim

[Nagognog2]

The same thing that Nitrous Oxide does. Or Ethyl Chloride, for that matter. And no one is exactly certain what that is. But they all produce a similar effect. Rather like taking one into a separate reality. Strange stuff indeed.


If someone you run into decides to try diethyl ether, remember that this stuff is exceedingly flammable and explosive. The fumes are heavier than air and tend to settle. Best done out of doors away from any and all sources of ignition. And you will smell like you escaped from surgery the next day no matter what you try to do about it.

[MrJim]

So that's why I couldn't find out... I don't understand how after more than 200 years of use something could be so poorly understood.

[Nagognog2]

An interesting aside about ether being used as an anesthetic is the reaction that people who were operated on while "knocked out" by ether: They take one sniff of it and they go bonkers! I have seen this reaction with older folks many times.


This leads me to a possible hypothesis that when someone is "under" ether anesthesia, they are not really unconscious. Rather they are too high to move and/or object to being cut open by a goon wearing a mask! Deep within their psyche exists the memory of this event. And one sniff of ether brings it flooding back. Though not in a truly lucid or cognizant form. They just get very upset.


Regards toxicity, diethyl ether is about one-half as toxic as ethyl(drinking) alcohol. And one would use far less of it in a typical "ether-binge" than one would drink to get wrecked. In fact, during prohibition in both the USA and Scotland years ago, drinking ether became quite popular. It was noted for getting one totally plastered without causing a hangover. But don't get any bright ideas here: If SWIM must experiment, stick to pouring an ounce into a glass jar and taking a snuff and then capping it. Go slowly. Edited by: nagognog2

[MrJim]

Evidently women drinking Alcohol was frowned upon in the 1800's so they would mix a little ether with aswig alcohol and drink it. That way they could get hammered in a socially acceptable way.

[antigenesis]

I have had some experience with ether I distilled from starter
fluid. Huffing it through a rag was certainly an experience to be
had, but it leaves your breath stinking like the stuff for hours (to
others, as long as you inhale through nose & mouth you are numbed
to the smell/taste) and nothing helps. Don't try drinking it, I
mixed a suggested amount(I think it was around 10 or 15 mL) with a
little vodka, and I had no effects other than the most disgusting burps
imaginable every 1-2 minutes for 3-5 hours.



[NOTE] DO NOT under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES huff undistilled starter
fluid. It contains hexanes, heptanes, and other such nasties, so
you might as well be huffing paint or gasoline.


Edited by: antigenesis

[Nagognog2]

Topics merged. Duplicate removed during the move, antigenesis.

[wertfun]

If you have sulfuric acid(found %98 at local stores)Ether can be made also by distilling mix of votka and sulfuric acid.

[bonghed]

Perhaps you can take Hunter Thompson with a pinch of salt. Someone on Bluelight tried some andrenachrome-- it didn't do much. Andrenaline just makes your heart race.


Ether gives you a short dissociative high, a bit like nitrous oxide.Edited by: enquirewithin

Ofcourse, it inspired curiousity is all as i haven't heard of ether substance before(scuse pun folks, bad as xmas cracker). i've tried ether now, and i enjoyed it.

swim probably do ether again, well he will, is it good to enhance a trip? or is (as i think) n20 better, well probably find out soon enough.

swim enjoys n20 methods over huffing ether though, it's definatly worth experiementing with.

[Nateup7]

WOW! I can't believe your friends huff ether. Doesnt it say on erowid that effects from those shits (inhalents as opposed to nitrous) are inseperable from nerve damage?

[zyxz]

read up above...ether is different from other inhalants in that it has actual effects on the brain other than hypoxia. Has anyone heard of experiences of combining ether and n20... just curious

[trptamene]

^^I read a report on erowid for hoffman drops + n20...but not inhaled...although after swims one experience w/ hoffman drops he is no sure one is simply inhaling the ether fumes that comes off their breath, is probably difficult to seperate this from the oral ingestion of it.

[zyxz]

Can anyone see any danger with the combination of ether and N20, because SWIM would like to try the 2 in combination, and wants to know if it is safe.

[Pino]

read up above...ether is different from other inhalants in that it has actual effects on the brain other than hypoxia. Has anyone heard of experiences of combining ether and n20... just curious

Swim did. He used n2o at several levels of ether intoxication. At the whawhawhawha level (the sound thing) it seemed to add some vibrations to his field of view also made the sound distortions worse. At a more distorted level, the nitrous made the logic of the world even more boggled. It added also more color to the hallucinations. The euphoria seemed to be really enhanced. It works synergistic. Sound distortions are more prone to happen. Swim had something talking to him a couple of times.

The cons side of the story is that swim passed out more often than on both substances alone -possible hypoxia! Or just anesthesia. Who knows, just be careful :)-, also the amount of n2o used also increased, when compared to n2o alone. (Swim finished two of his 40 cartridge boxes in one night and after he was finished he was searching, drunken from the ether on his knees, the floor for more. Such a pathetic sight it must have been.... On the other hand, a ether binge is probably for an non-intoxicated observer a extraordinary happening.).

Just try to keep the amount of cartridges low. Swim didn't have a headache or such, but swim suspects he was hypoxic for a couple of times during the experience.

About the brain damage, swim thought ether was about as damaging to the brain as ethanol. Can someone shed a light on this for swim?

Swim thinks it is nice to have some at the peak of the ether binge. But swim knows it is impossible to time that, because if swim has access to the n2o.

[zyxz]

SWIM will probably try this combo then however making sure to breathe plenty of oxygen as well

[Pino]

An interesting aside about ether being used as an anesthetic is the reaction that people who were operated on while "knocked out" by ether: They take one sniff of it and they go bonkers! I have seen this reaction with older folks many times.

Really scary, swim did ether a couple of times now. And he has certain memories, which he only can remember when on ether or (and this is maybe the most scary part) when he receives a explicit cue to it. There is something called state depended memory. The state is herein the cue to retrieve the memory. Alcoholics strangely enough seem to remember things when they are drunk (and they don't need to be that pissed), which they forgot when they were sober. They also tend to retrieve memories better, when they are drunk, which were learned when they were drunk.

Maybe the effect of anesthesia with ether is partially based on this: The ether creates an extraordinary -out of this world- mind state, this makes the memory of the events during the intoxication almost irretrievable, because the cue isn't one, which often occurs in 'normal' people lives.. However if one does ether, the mind state is the same. So it can all come back.

For dosing oneself on ether. Swim would say putting it on a rag is the best option. The whisky glass is more classy, swim has to say. On the come down of the stuff (and the come up, but one is busy huffing then), one is presented with some really heavy and real hallucinations in which all the senses are stimulated. Swim did the whiskey glass trick and drank it because he thought it was water. He even tasted it before and it tasted like water and he sniffed it and it smelled like water. He drank it and it burned like, well, ether. After at which he puked up a lovely fruit salad. Sour fruit, it should be a taste at the store.

Swim got accidentally called after a busy and shitty day while in a full force ether trip. He just wanted to relax, but it shouldn't last to long. He had to sleep fast enough. It shouldn't leave a headache, because he had to work the next day. But he wanted a powerful experience. Ether is perfect for this.

His son was sick, but that day he dropped it off at its mother/(partial girlfriend, complex different story :p), because it was her day to nurture him, so he felt free to do some ether. Then she called, how much acetaminophen/paracetamolhe gave him, just to insure she wouldn't give him too much. (The correct answer was just one). But he started to say gibberish at the phone -like none or how big the dose was?-, so she panicked because he was so fucked and she didn't expected it, -insert logical connection here- so he thought of course his son was dying. Which isn't fun to hear, when everything can start to talk to you and your mind is scrambled enough to believe everything which pops up in the mind. -Like as usual he had created the universe.-

He talked it out with the mother -who had to laugh about it afterwards, especially at his little power fantasy-, she was "just" scared because she thought he was the one dying. Moral of the story. Don't pick up the phone, don't try to communicate with the outside world, don't even think you are rational enough to talk with someone. You are not and you cannot. Swim had exactly two conversations while on ether on the phone. The first was intentional. The second was accidental. Both were incomprehensible and both ended with panicked people on the other end.

Also there is some strange dilation effects with ones conscious and ones unconscious. This makes one very impulsive. He found a quote on erowid, which makes the point:

The liquid in the bottle was 1.5 liters down. About halfway through this something happened to my personal flow of time. My conscious mind was registering events that happened around me and my own actions 10-15 seconds after they would actually occur. Someone called the lab and I had to interrupt to answer the phone. My answers were correct, but I the words registered in my mind way after they were spoken. I put the phone down and later I realized that I did that. I breath more ether and then I realize that I just did that even though I was planning to stop.

[d3ckser23]

aw man, ether engine starter fluid....the biggest mistake of my life.
after using, i now suffer from paranoia, and my nervous system is all jacked,