View Full Version : the knowing when to stop using cocaine thread
pokergod0588
24-08-2005, 16:22
was sittin in my room a few weeks ago, after i just blew through my last line when i realized how fucked up coke is...it goes fast as shit, feeling last extremely short, and is horribly expensive
you know you gotta stop when you go from snortin with tht fancy ass $50 bill, to a crappy rolled $1 billwhich isthe only money you got...i quit b/c i realized this and that all i was doin was snortin coke and didnt give a fuck who knew...now i almost come right out and tell ppl i quit so that ppl will know im atleast trying (even though i just switched drugs)
im just sayin this so tht youze out there tht are doin this same thing can realize that you're too far into it
dont mean to preach just tryin to help out
yer man i know exactly where your coming from, always happens to me, as i said in my last post, il be sitting in my room, and il have the last line, 10 minuits later, im thinking
" this is such a fucking shit, evil, money wasting drug, what am i doing in here, when i could be out smoking some weed, mayb doing some mdma with friends, not sitting on my own doing a addicting drug, shit ive wasted £40 on this, i could of bought a ps2 game! "
but then again, while im on coke, its completly different!
" raa man this is the best drug, i cant believe the feeling im having, how much should i get 2moz?, when shall i get some 2moz, what can i sell for money for more coke!, im gonna have 1 more line and call it a night! "
but it never is just 1 more line, i always have to finish the coke when i start, do u have the same problem?
pokergod0588
24-08-2005, 17:02
of course, you gotta be one strong willed person to be ableto zip up the bag and put it away...if i wentout and bought 3 8balls, i'd go on a binge until its all gone because it just consumes you
i used to be able to just bump everyonce and a while but when i began snorting fat lines everytime, istarted breaking myself off from other ppl or going to the bathroom for 10-15 minutes at a time
well when swim cokes he gets high but after some time its going down.
two decisions
- continue to blow and hope for it to come high again
- stop and do something else
SWIM had this the last time, he was high and the effect started to decrease and he took more and more hoping for it to come back which didnt happen and his coke was all gone. Had he stopped right then he would have had a nice portion still left over for tomorrow.
What are your experiences?
Pinkavvy
30-12-2005, 20:29
the first blow of the night is best, that's for sure. swim for one, who doesn't do coke regularly at all anymore, does about a gram up when he first gets it, and put the rest away for next time... cause the first gram of the party is the best. the rest the time you're trying to play catchup.
swim only has 1g and the baggy looks half empty he says. He wants to keep for tomorrows new year party but somehow he feels he has to do it all at once.
i reckon swim to stop now and be happy when he gets up to see still half a baggy anyone backing up?
Sitbcknchill
30-12-2005, 21:02
Yeah your best bet is to save it....but as we all know sometimes it takes alot of self controll to keep from digging in....
swim says its like getting up, oh please just 5 more minutes .... oh please just 2 more lines.
swim says when he is rich he will buy 1kg in order never to worry agai
Hardest thing in the world is to decide that its time to call it a night. You almost HAVE to find something else to get your mind off of it.
Best things for me in order of preference:
1. Ativan. It's a pill used for anxiety and sleep aid. Taking ativan after my last two lines is sometimes the best high of the night. It hits me so hard that I lay down. The coke gets my body a little tingly and the ativan makes me sleepy. It'll be a sad day when my ativan hook-up leaves me.
2. Vicodin. Similar to ativan but not as strong.
3. Weed. Smoking weed can help me fall asleep and keep me from shaking. But it doesn't get my head off of the blow.
SWIM used to buy large amounts to get it cheaper when he first started...then after a while he couldn't stop till it was gone...he'd stay up 48-96 hours straight...It began to suck big time...then he started buying it no larger than a gram and a half if by himself...just enough for a night, and has never made a desperation call to get more...works like a charm. However, I know many people that don't half the self control to not make the call to get more.
Swim has too much pride to let himself call a dealer in desperation but if the shit's just lying around it's almost impossible to quit.
the desperate calls r very funny when swim gets em.....(swim got one tonite dude was tryna say he would pay double the next day if he could get another half on the front they are all very pathetic and swim jus laughs but swim knows how hard it is and feels bad they are addicted) havin the shyt around in quantity sucks..... basically swim jus thinks of the profit and how much swim has to save and then jus does the dust that falls off from baggin it up.... u should stop when ur not feelin the effects as much anything after that is jus like a placebo effect of doing a line might as well b doin bakin soda
someonewhoisntme
03-01-2006, 22:36
I find that once I've reached my highest high on coke I can't get back up to it, no matter how much sniff I do.
SWIM agrees that the first couple of lines are always the best of the bag. SWIM's strategy is to plan ahead and buy just enough for one night or whatever the occasion is. SWIM does this because if there is a lot extra just lying around SWIM has a hard time fighting the temptation to do it all. Yes, once the bag is empty it is a shitty feeling, but at least it allows for some self control and it also saves money because SWIM isn't chasing that first high all night long.
Push-Limit
23-01-2006, 21:11
i think i read an article somewhere that cocaine is much better on alcohol. i am inclined to beleive this.
Pros:
effects of both combine to give a much better effect (of both substances)
You can be drunk but have some control. depending on dosage.
fucking wicked mate!
Cons:
Coca-ethlyene is produced in the liver. V. Bad.
Memory loss.
Can get out of control. even more abusive/aggresive/loud/funny(?). depending on dosage.
Cokabuzer
28-03-2006, 12:25
If you've read some of my other posts, you know that once I start snorting I loose control and that I can't get myself to stop...
I like the ''buy only what you want to take for the day'' tip, but personally I still choose to buy more than that each time (3.5 or 7) for two reasons:
1) At first it costs more but is lot cheaper per gram. Although I realize that I'd probably snort smaller amounts in the long run if I didn't have so much handy each time...
2) I can't buy it directly, I have to go through one of my friends and meet downtown. So, I buy bigger amounts with hopes that I'll use it all in several separate occasions, saving myself and my friend the trip, time and trouble...
The best thing I ever did was to have my 7g separated in 1g bags and leave them to my friend, who could only give me one at a time, no more than two a week, no matter what I said.
I know, I'm pathetic...
not only are the first couple lines of the night the best, but for those experienced out there you have to admit that those first few times are the best as well, for all the newbies if your dablig get out while you can because after a while its not the same. swim doesnt even get high off snortin anymore no matter how much, and nobody can bash the product because swim knows the game and its fucking primo. to get high swims gotta slam it, and well that just sucks. its pretty rediculous when you cant wear a t-shirt on a warm day.
Bladerunner
29-03-2006, 12:06
I suppose the trick about stopping is not starting in the first place;-)
...................and I guess that goes for just about anything!
Kittyofftitty
30-03-2006, 06:39
The problem SWIM has is that he starts comming down and fears that experience so he snorts another line which does prolong the time till come down, but it just makes the come down worse. Too bad SWIM can't realize this at the time.
(hes done coke times before but months between the 1-2 days it was done, this is the first time SWIM has done it longer than 2 days)
SWIM has been doing coke the past week and has stopped after the last night for a couple weeks. only 2-3 sessions a day, couple points less of 1g daily. SWIM basically would buy a 1/4 Oz every 2 days and save 1 gram for himself and any buddy who would like and sell the rest. so that adds up to around a .5 average a day but not just to himself.
SWIMs comedowns have not been bad at all, sure the feeling for another line occured but during the week SWIM didnt give in to it half the time and would wait hours till the next session. he would just deal with the comedown because it wasnt so bad. besides the need feeling SWIM just had the shakes (SWIM has anxiety and shakes a little, coke just intensifies it a bit) it isnt bad but SWIM just finds it annoying, MJ or xanax/ ani-anxiety meds help,
so SWIM has decided to take a month off, chill and just smoke some bud. next time SWIM does coke he will make sure to have a 4bar of xanax or a nice joint handy for the end of the high
That is the important question! the real damned problem is, that when you are at a party with a lot of ya friends and everything is cool and amusing you really cant stop it...just snortin and snorting...on and on! It is so damned hard to say for yourself "...now its over, lets stop right now...!" A real good coke dont let you say that so you are going on and on with the stuff till your bag is empty...only then your pushing feeling is over, unfortunately! That is the only bad thing with this stuff SWIM feels every time doin it
cocaine dependancy... wow that sounds bad... think about it
skylined
11-01-2008, 09:29
SWIM used cocaine in the past, he did a .5 with friends on weekends... and partied pretty hard one night (maybe 1.5). SWIM had issues swallowing, racing irregular heart beats, burning in body, tingling arms, sweats, etc... SWIM thought for sure he was about to have a heart attack... SWIM took a cold shower and forced sleep eventually. Well recently SWIM started using again and is getting into it... now maybe 1 g every other couple days. SWIM is feeling VERY paranoid on it, sweating like MAD, and only enjoys it when he's drunk. SWIM has a tightness in the chest on it, not neccesarely pain, but feeling aware of the heart (could be the paranoia of his terrifying experience). When off it SWIM is starting to have intense craving, feeling lousy, feels VERY burned out (trouble thinking and staying focused at work), and is now waking up to sweats and starting to "itch" or feel something crawl up the skin. SWIM has been using frequently for about a month now... is it possible to get full blown addiction effects this quick. Are there any heart conditions that involve itching.
Micklemouse
11-01-2008, 09:50
Yes, it is possible to get addicted that quickly - the fact that your monkey is using a gram every other day despite the adverse reactions mentioned & only enjoying it when drunk is indicative of a big problem in the making.
Alcohol + cocaine are converted in the liver into a substance called cocaethylene, which is highly toxic to the heart, & can easily cause major cardiac problems - it is well covered on this Forum, & elsewhere; please use the Search Engine to educate your monkey on the risks involved.
skylined
11-01-2008, 10:06
I am concerned about the itching... it really is getting to be obnoxious.. is it cocaine related. It really sucks hearing all this, I would love to delete the numbers in my phone right now but I know i'll hate myself for it tommorow.
skylined
11-01-2008, 10:08
fuck it... i've read enough... i'm done.
Micklemouse
11-01-2008, 10:17
I am concerned about the itching... it really is getting to be obnoxious.. is it cocaine related. It really sucks hearing all this, I would love to delete the numbers in my phone right now but I know i'll hate myself for it tommorow.
And your monkey will hate you for it even more if he's allowed to carry on damaging himself like this - there is a high chance that he will end up in hospital with either physical or mental issues, or both, if he keeps along this track. Delete those numbers, go to bed for a few days with a stock of good food, plenty of fluids (non-alcoholic!) & sleep it off.
The itching is indeed cocaine related. Antihistamines will help, & could provide useful sedation if your monkey does decide to quit - just monitor his intake & make sure he doesn't go overboard!
Best of luck. The Recovery and addiction (http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=56) forum may be a useful place to hang out for a while...
skylined
11-01-2008, 10:47
Thanks for the advice... I came here for recreational reasons and i'm leaving with a pretty scary dose of reality. My 'monkey' is feeling horrid, he had no idea he was this far down the road... right now he's dealing with unbareable itching, sweating, mental fatigue, extreme insomnia, a horrible feeling in his chest, and even though the reality has set in his mind is racing with mixed confusion to use or not to use. If anyone considers using this drug and reads this, stay away from it... it'll turn the best person into a lying, stealing, piece of crap. This is no exaggeration. My "monkey" is hooked on a drug he NEVER enjoyed alone in the first place... and all the while hid it from family, friends, coworkers, and himself. Thanks alot, I know i'm being a little overanalytical and emotional right now, but you probably just saved me from a miserable, short, and taxing exsistance.
rocksmokinmachine
11-01-2008, 11:26
Cocaine can cause cardiovascular complications. SWIY is best off quitting now. The pains in the chest and irregular heartbeat is quite worrying.
As mentioned by MM combining it with alcohol makes it even more dangerous. Have a few days in bed and take some B-Complex vitamins. B6 (niacin) converts to dopamine in the brain and will help replenish the lost dopamine while SWIY has been using.
Micklemouse
11-01-2008, 11:45
Sound advice - a B vitamin complex supplement, the strongest your monkey can find (available from all good health stores & pharmacies too!) will help a lot in the coming weeks.
skylined
11-01-2008, 19:20
deleted for self incrimination.
read the rules.
skylined
11-01-2008, 23:33
thanks. sorry.
swiy has admitted to a problem that is the first step. swiy sound like you have a good head on your shoulders, swiy can get through this.
Swiy has done brilliant by coming here and understanding that Swiy has a bit of a problem. Cocaine is so highly addictive, one has to be so careful, and it's so expensive too. It's hard, definitely, but these side-effects Swiy is suffering is from the coke, and Swiy needs to give it a rest, as hard as it is. Excellent advice has been given about Vitamin B. Swiy could stay off the alcohol for a while. Not going out into town won't get Swiy in the mood to do the Charlie. Try switching the diet around for a bit, to incorporate plenty of water, fruits and vegetables, etc.
For the itching, a simple handcream or non-fragranced moisturiser will relieve symptons temporarily.
skylined
13-01-2008, 07:56
SWIM couldn't take it anymore, SWIM has alot on his plate right now and that bitch was doing nothing but knocking him down. SWIM is COMPLETELY miserable, he's spending lost time with family, eating like a pig, smoking cigs like a chimney, and having a red bull to get through the work day and a few beers to get him to sleep. He is doing better though. SWIM thinks highly of this forum... very informative and helpful. SWIM wishes everyone would step back and take a look at this drug and what's it's worth to them. SWIM is pretty confident he'll never touch it again, but he knows for sure it's something that will always haunt him in the back of his mind.
RashleySmashley
15-01-2008, 08:57
SWIM has gone through SWIY's situation, and knows that right now SWIY may feel lost, miserable, hopeless, defensive, angry, relieved... and so much more! But SWIM wants to say its really great that SWIY, on his own, is able to see outside the box of addiction. Many SWIM knows have bounced between rehabs for years and still haven't reached that mindset! SWIM HATED that itch but it goes away soon. Cocaine dehydrates the body as aformentioned, so massive amounts of water and moisturizing right after a shower with lotion containing vitamin E & elastin or cetaphil brand lotion worked wonders for SWIM. Restricted muscle growth and mal-nurishment can occur too: Vitamin B was great suggestion, SWIM was anemic & took multivitamin with iron and it helped boost energy; protein bars also helped, many are gross but the zone and balance bars aren't too bad.
SWIM just throwing out a cautionary word to not drink too much too soon- alcohol became a sublimination for her stronger infatuation, and caused a big hinderance to the bettering process... for 2 years, it wasn't pretty.
good to hear that you are trying very hard to kick the coke. Keep us updated.
skylined
31-01-2008, 19:37
I recently posted about my monkeys attempt at kicking his cocaine habit. The first week of cravings wasn't so bad for my monkey as he knew he had to quit... he started getting sleep, the bugs went away, the depression and anxiety settled, etc... now my monkey is dealing very hard with the cravings... certain smells (bathroom at work, etc.), straws, any kind of reference to cocaine, or even something that looks like cocaine gives him insatiable cravings... It's worse than the first two weeks, mostly because my monkeys forgets what it felt like and why he ever quit in the first place. My monkey urges you to stay away from this drug as NOTHING good comes from it, and he's seen it tear lives apart, even his own recently. Please edjucate yourself before dabbling with drugs, I wish my monkey had... as he'll probably be scarred with these cravings for the rest of his life.
sashamotto
01-02-2008, 06:55
Hear, hear. It's the greatest thing in the world, but surely enough what goes up must come down. Take time off from life completely, disappear for a week or two. No phone, no MSN or w/e, just lie in bed and watch TV or something akin to that. Anyways, SWIM thinks I shouldn't talk because SWIM just relapsed very recently, which is he has dragged me to this site.
sashamotto
01-02-2008, 08:18
One thing that I've seen help people develop a sober life is Cocaine Anonymous.
Cocaine and all other hard drugs will not make you better. There are no good endings with cocaine. Make no mistake, it will kill everyone single addict (if one is) very slowly, over-time, but surely. Unless he or she gets sober, one will be homeless, in jail or dead. Crack, powder... it's all the same. It's an escape from your problems and your realities. SWIM is an addict and knows there's a way out, but he cannot get out unless the underlying problems which drugs help to solve. I guess drugs are sort of a medicine for whatever ails you, but the medicine just makes you sicker in a different way. It keeps you from living. It makes you a fringe-living, marginalized, angry, and dependent. SWIM might as well live in the third-world with a bare room and a computer.
But hey, it's fun while it lasts that icy blast. SWIM wouldn't change it for the world, it's a bad choice he knows. But sometimes choosing to die slowly is better than death itself. Sorry, I tried to help you but I ended up making myself very sad. But maybe you're feeling similar and this helps.
RashleySmashley
10-06-2008, 07:37
LOL SWIM understands quit well what sashamotto's friend is sayin: SWIM doesnt regrett all her crazy eperiences flying high, because it is what it is. It is sad once the realization sets in that SWIM/SWIYs peak altitude has been HIT, and there's nowhere to go but back down to ground 0. After all, addiction is the ultimate obsession as a few others have said above. Being able to look back at the good AND the bad objectively and realize that "less is more" is a hard fuckin place to reach, and stay at! Its with you forever and ever. It really can suck sometimes, but its 1 day at a time, and remembering that once you hit a certain point, theres only 2 options: sober ground 0,or 6 feet under, R.I.P.
RashleySmashley added 166 Minutes and 49 Seconds later...
AND: guess it is what it is, as long as you learn from the past. Some ppl just have to fall flat on their face and severely fuck shit up to realize whats up with their life and every1 round them. SWIM was in that class. Sum obvious things just arent obvious 2 every1 SWIM guesses... SWIM wonders y she is the way she is? Y always the feeling of never being satisfied, of always having to push the extreme to the meltdown level, why did she always say... "fuck it. y not? jump right in". Always a "habitual line-stepper" (yeah, Chapelle show Rick James episode), and always relatively copasetic at volumes of things that would have killed 3 ppl, but somehow SWIM was still rollin for thrills and fun. Does any1 SWIYS out there know feel like SWIM? Maybe its a subliminal death wish conplex, regardless of the fact that SWIM normally has a golden time in things? Spoiled inner child emerging in obsessive excess? SWIM always loved Oz, watched it 10x3 times, always wanted to escape and find contentment beyond the rainbow. Even now the pull is strong, even though SWIM knows SO fuckin well that theres nothin but a empty void far from home at the end of rainbow. ANy thoughts? Dont hate, SWIM is on a philosophical kick!
If you've read some of my other posts, you know that once I start snorting I loose control and that I can't get myself to stop...
I like the ''buy only what you want to take for the day'' tip, but personally I still choose to buy more than that each time (3.5 or 7) for two reasons:
1) At first it costs more but is lot cheaper per gram. Although I realize that I'd probably snort smaller amounts in the long run if I didn't have so much handy each time...
2) I can't buy it directly, I have to go through one of my friends and meet downtown. So, I buy bigger amounts with hopes that I'll use it all in several separate occasions, saving myself and my friend the trip, time and trouble...
The best thing I ever did was to have my 7g separated in 1g bags and leave them to my friend, who could only give me one at a time, no more than two a week, no matter what I said.
I know, I'm pathetic...
SWIM has done the same thing but went to his friend and almost got in a fight went he was drunk... and recovered the yay:)